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      "content": "We've now got a partner who can do gold wire bonding - not the stud bumping though.",
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      "content": "Aside from the totally fair objection of *\"wtf are you doing?\"* is there anything that would technically prevent me from doing this, such as a diode between core\\_vdd and io\\_vdd?",
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      "content": "(1) There is a parasitic body diode.\n(2) level converters are not the same to up convert or down convert ... so that wouldn't work anyway.",
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      "content": "Thanks tnt \uD83E\uDEE1",
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      "content": "Did this get ported to GF180?",
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      "content": "@Archit3ch :  No, that did not get ported to GF180.  The Chipalooza challenge is a step in that direction.",
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      "content": "I have a few ideas... Not at that scale and not with real Xyce models though.",
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      "content": "Great. \n\nLet's chat later starting in like 2 hours from now, or up to a couple hours later than that?",
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      "content": "I'm travelling without a laptop. Currently on the metro. I can share a 1000-foot plan. \uD83E\uDEBD",
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